Do Giants sleep at night?

My name is Mark and I have a Giant problem.......
I own 10 or 11 Mantic Giants (including Frost and Shadow variations), most have been customised to greater or lesser degrees.
I have run several lists through version 2 and 3 of Kings of War with anything from 2 to 7 Giants in a 1000 to 2000 point list.
I also have several other non-mantic giants, and more on the way.
So what is the problem?
Nope its not that I have too many, or not enough, its that people think Giants are shit.

What is a Giant?

Well for me there are a few points that means something is a Giant:

• Size: either Monster or Titan
• Strider: A giant would never be interrupted in its attack by such mundane things such as forests or bushes
• Lots of Crushing: CS3 or more, being successfully hit by a giant should leave a mark

Brucie bonus if their attacks area Random number, as consistency is not the Giants strength.

We're all giants, I can't believe it. 
We were giants all along

So what things are "giants" then?

There are 14 different types of "giants", across 20 different factions.

Type	Faction
Giant	Ogres
	Goblins
	Orcs
	Kingdoms of Men
Hrimm, Legendary Ice Giant [1]	Northern Alliance
Frost Giant	Northern Alliance
	Varangur
Bone Giant	Empire of Dust
Coral Giant	Trident Realm
Shadow-hulk	Nightstalkers
Cronebound Shadow-hulk	Twilight Kin
Greater Obsidian Golem	Abyssal Dwarfs
Greater Earth Elemental	Forces of Nature
	Order of the Green Lady
	Free Dwarfs
	The Herd
Cavern Dweller	Northern Alliance
	Varangur
Tree Herder - Wiltfather	Sylvan Kin
Tree Herder	The Herd
	Elves
	Sylvan Kin
	Forces of Nature
Chroneas	Forces of the Abyss
Revenant on Undead Great Burrowing Wyrm	Empire of Dust
	Undead

Giant steps are what you take. 
Where the fucks the moon

How do the Giants weigh up against each other?
Weighing up the various aspects of a giant:

The Twatting measures I used was the points cost divided by the following:

• Average number of attacks (for D6 attack types)
• Hitting on 3s or 4s - so How many attacks would hit.
• Crushing Strength 3 or 4 - so How many hits would wound.
• The following for simplicity each added 1 "wound"
• Elite
• Vicious
• Dread
• Brutal
• Cloak of Death

The Survival measures I used was the points cost divided by the following:

• Top Nerve value (Kill value)
• Defense value
• Stealthy
• Ensnare
• Fury
• Fearless
• Iron Resolve
• Regeneration value
• Radiance of Life
• Lifeleech number
• Inspiring
• Mindthirst

Ability to Twat the opponent: Fe Fi Fo Fum its going to twat you on your bum

The Winner is the Giant, inflicting on average 6 wounds to def 6, so costing only 38 (and change) pts per wound, just tipping the Frost Giant to the number one spot by a few decimals)

The Tree Herder down at the bottom with CS 3 not 4 inflicts only 4 wounds to Def6 and costs in at 65pts per wound

The Tree Herder Wiltfather, at 40pts more than the Tree herder gains an additional attack and swaps Radiance of life to Cloak of death, so the wounds go up to 6 and cost per wound is 50pts

For producing wounds/removing units, need to take into account:	Rank	Type	Tier
Points cost of unit, divided by Average wounds inflicted against Def6 Number of attacks Crushing Strength 3 or 4 Hitting on 3 or 4 Elite or Vicious Cloak of Death Brutal	1st	Giant	A
	2nd	Frost Giant	A
	3rd	Hrimm,   Legendary Ice Giant [1]	B
	4th	Revenant on Undead Great Burrowing Wyrm	B
	5th	Greater   Earth Elemental	B
	6th	Bone Giant	B
	7th	Tree Herder - Wiltfather	C
	8th	Cavern Dweller	C
	9th	Coral Giant	C
	10th	Chroneas	C
	11th	Greater Obsidian Golem	C
	12th	Cronebound Shadow-hulk	C
	13th	Shadow-hulk	C
	14th	Tree Herder	D

Ability to continue to twat the opponent - The Iron Giants

The survive-ability of the giant, no point having a giant if it just keeps falling over at a small breeze.

The top banana is the Shadow-Hulk with Stealthy and Mindthirst helping it grab the crown.

The Cronebound Shadow-Hulk is close behind, but not equal due to lack of Mindthirst.

The Tree Herder shoots up the table to 5th spot and is one of the most survivable units it the game with Def6, but the -/18 nerve an 260pt cost pull the herder down to 5th spot.

The Tree Herder Wiltfather, at 40pts more than the Tree herder with the switch from Radiance of life to Cloak of death, its surviability goes down, but with the increase of nerve to -/19 this balances out for it to maintain 7th spot.

For survival, need to take into account:	Rank	Type	Tier
Points cost of unit, divided by: Route Nerve Value Defense 5 or 6 Stealthy or Ensnare Iron Resolve Radiance of Life Lifeleech number Fearless or Fury Inspiring or Mindthirst	1st	Shadow-hulk	A
	2nd	Cronebound Shadow-hulk	A
	3rd	Hrimm, Legendary Ice Giant [1]	A
	4th	Cavern Dweller	B
	5th	Tree   Herder	B
	6th	Giant	B
	7th	Tree   Herder - Wiltfather	C
	8th	Bone Giant	C
	9th	Greater Earth Elemental	C
	10th	Greater Obsidian Golem	C
	11th	Coral Giant	C
	12th	Revenant on Undead Great Burrowing Wyrm	D
	13th	Frost Giant	D
	14th	Chroneas	E

Ho! Ho! Ho! Green Giant

Overall cost per producing wounds/removing units plus cost per survival

Rank	Type	Tier	Stat card
1st	Giant	A
2nd	Hrimm, Legendary Ice Giant [1]	A
3rd	Frost Giant	A
4th	Revenant   on Undead Great Burrowing Wyrm	B
5th	Greater Earth Elemental	B
6th	Bone Giant	B
7th	Tree Herder - Wiltfather	C
8th	Cavern Dweller	C
9th	Shadow-hulk	C
10th	Cronebound Shadow-hulk	C
11th	Greater Obsidian Golem	D
12th	Coral Giant	D
13th	Chroneas	E
14th	Tree Herder	E

Conclusion

Giants are great, get a few giants and add em to your army.
20 out of 26 have a "giant", so you don't have any excuse.
Giants should put out about 6 wounds to Def 5 and 5 to Def 6

When even the most cost inefficient "giant" is a basterd to get rid of, you know giants are a good thing.

Come over to the giant side, we have beer n biscuits

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