Trouble in the extremes - Tourney Scoring

Trouble in the extremes - Tourney Scoring
There seems (to me) to be bug bears with each scoring system.
With each system having fan base and haters.
I am loving the move towards scenario scoring.
I think with upset I had with a couple of people winning 1 out of 4 games, but scoring higher than a couple that won 2 out of 4 games. 
I wanted to explore the edge cases a bit further to work out if there was a system that this could not happen in, and it seems no, any system that combines, Result, scenario and Kill/attrition scoring into a single round score, can fall intentionally or unintentionally to this.
The screw balls are in the extreme scores.
Just for Awareness, a single Max win is very hard to beat, esp if the subsequent loses are max bonus all the way.
So I wanted to work out some of the pros and cons for each system.

Enter the Fray

https://www.facebook.com/events/336228293910239/
hosted by Clive Stone at Tabletop Republic at High Wycome
1K Kings of War Tournament
When 11th May 2019

Clive the sales doohdar from Mantic, wanted to build and help the stores that Mantic products are sold at.
Together with Tom who owns Tabletop Republic pulled together a 1000pts Kings of War tournament.

This is an interesting point size, as each unit is key. Played out on a 4x4 tables.

16 merry souls rocked up to High Wycome and set our armies out.

14 different armies, a very nice spread.

1. Abyssal Dwarfs x2
2. Basileans
3. Dwarfs
4. Emipre of Dust
5. Forces of the Abyss
6. Goblins
7. Kingoms of Men
8. Nightstalkers
9. Orgres
10. Ratkin
11. Trident Realm x2
12. Twilight Kin
13. Undead
14. Varnagur

Easter Endurance - 5 Game KoW Tournament

27th April

Hosted by Warborne Gamers
Hosted at Entoyment Wargaming and Hobby Centre

So an interesting concept was devised by Matt Dewsnap to pull in 5 games in one day.
x2 games at 1000pts 30min per game
x1 game at 1500pts 40min per game
x2 games at 2000pts 40 then 45 min per game

So a 5 round tourney in a day, hmm

So after a 2 1/2 hr drive with top down come sun, wind or rain I arrive at Entoyment.

My Lists.

1000pts

x2 Direfang Hordes with Fury gift and one with iron resolve artifact
Cavern Dweller
Frost Giant with Blizzard

1500pts

x3 Warband
Direfang Hordes with Fury gift
x2 Cavern Dweller
Frost Giant with Blizzard
Frost Giant with Hex

2000pts

x6 Warband
x3 Cavern Dweller
x3 Frost Giant one with Blizzard

Round 1: Dominate

1000pts
Opponent: Kerry Dewsnap
Race: Nature
Tight game, and started my roll of double ones that went through the day.
Two in this round alone.
Very good tap dance ensured with both our unit Strength cancelling out each other.
Result: Draw

Franticon 23rd to 24th March

https://www.facebook.com/events/245149449525248/
Sorry this took a while to write as Real life got in the way :D

Franticon was a two day event with multiple tournaments running during both days:
kings of war - doubles
Deadzone
Dreadball
Kings of war - singles
Warpath

Kings of War - Doubles

hosted by Kings of Herts team
https://www.facebook.com/events/1841774202605061/

Due to an accident I ended up running two 1k fractions as a doubles team.

My army

Huns

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nroE_ZuUod9wtjZoCvb7g_4R3ovgwxmD?fbclid=IwAR3GFK9OOQfXLcXmayYLM5s1w_KY7-2dNjPBfSZos0aTN6765inoLZOoZSw
X4 Hunnic Cavalry Regiment, all with lassos, one with Fleet of foot and one with Parthian Shot
Attila (Dread using Fantasy not Historical rules)
Unit Strength 0

Barbarians

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nroE_ZuUod9wtjZoCvb7g_4R3ovgwxmD?fbclid=IwAR3GFK9OOQfXLcXmayYLM5s1w_KY7-2dNjPBfSZos0aTN6765inoLZOoZSw
x3 Franatics (one with Shock Troops)
Army Standard Bearer
Musician
Carnyx Blower
Unit Strength 9

This gave a potential -3 to nerve (Attila, Carnyx Horn and Shock Troops)

Round 1: Invade

was paired against another loner orphan - Martin Radbourne
Double Nightstalkers
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nroE_ZuUod9wtjZoCvb7g_4R3ovgwxmD?fbclid=IwAR3GFK9OOQfXLcXmayYLM5s1w_KY7-2dNjPBfSZos0aTN6765inoLZOoZSw
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nroE_ZuUod9wtjZoCvb7g_4R3ovgwxmD?fbclid=IwAR3GFK9OOQfXLcXmayYLM5s1w_KY7-2dNjPBfSZos0aTN6765inoLZOoZSw

A heavy game and with only 3 units with unit strength in the whole army, uphill battle.

By the 5th turn my Fanatics were all dead, but they had destroyed or wounded most of the stalkers.
Turn 6 the Huns finished off everything, leaving the table bare of all but the Huns and the Barbarian Individuals.
With no unit strength on the table it was an epic draw.

Round 2: Pillage (or might have been Plunder)

Blondes and Bones - Daniel Read (Elves) and (Louis Cox-Brusseau (Undead)
An unholy pairing.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LUzPcb9-ols-uY-vY254QYhQCK-c7Lz_?fbclid=IwAR3GFK9OOQfXLcXmayYLM5s1w_KY7-2dNjPBfSZos0aTN6765inoLZOoZSw
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LUzPcb9-ols-uY-vY254QYhQCK-c7Lz_?fbclid=IwAR3GFK9OOQfXLcXmayYLM5s1w_KY7-2dNjPBfSZos0aTN6765inoLZOoZSw

Brutal game, and double shanked I think it was a horde of Barrow Wights with two hordes of Fanatics, with also the Caranyx Horn and Attilla places so a - 3 nerve.
They flew, they landed they died.
The undead were taken apart peice by peice and were left with just the Individuals.
The Elves did not fair much better, Archers having to move and shoot to gain position on shots, and even halving there elven dice when they shot one of the Hun Cav in cover.

The Blondes and Bones were left with 2 units that could score.
Clever tactics held up one of the fanatic hordes so they could claim un-opposed one of the tokens.

Score - 0-1
Loss

Round 3: Control

OMG, now this I knew from the off, would be a loss, with only 3 units that can score, it was how big a loss.
Big Hairy Ogre Balls - Jason Flint - (Nightstalkers) and Sven Bayliss (Ogres)
Big Smash and Grab game, lots of death and destruction all round.
But with the game all over the 6x4, could not control enough or cancel out enough.
Score 1-6
Loss
Was really happy at managing to score a zone

Massively fun day, came in 2nd last overall, but set out and done what I wanted.

1) Pulled a Draw by tabling opponent with US0
2) reduced the loss on a token scenario, and stopped a full VP load out to opponent to only allowing them to claim 1 VP
3) managed to score a zone in Control (

Dreadball

https://www.facebook.com/events/304920970324487/?active_tab=discussion
So having only played 1 game of Dreadball ever, and that was a demo reduced rules games. I thought yer why not and feilded a team for 4 rounds of Dreadball in the evening.

I was very knackered by this point so it became a bit of blurr who I played.

Round 1: Convict off

vs Bjorn Almgren
I managed to score and kill one of my own team members in one move - cool
A lot of I wonder what would happen if.. plays made by both of us as we were both new to the game.
Result: Loss

Round 2: vs Forge Fathers

John France
Result: Draw

Round 3: vs Orcs

Matt James
Cool game, and Matt showed me more of the rules and how they interact.
Result: Loss

Round 4: Convict off

George Kirke
Result: Loss

End result 2nd to last
Out of 28 teams 6 were Convicts

Was great fun, but was very tiered by the end, but always good to play and meet new people.

Day 2 - Kings of War - singles - Erit Bellum I

https://www.facebook.com/events/1700243380097525/
Did i say I was tired, well by the morning I was positively knackered.

Round 1 and 2 were at 1500pts
Round 3 and 4 were at 2000pts

my 1500pts
x3 Warband
Direfang Horde
x2 Cavern Dweller
x2 Frost Giant
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FHZMWe42NAcgPjdbj9V9eS7IQBjK3DyK?fbclid=IwAR3hyKYYGWXqJRaU1JN1y1Wf7gdWF_cthZci8VxV7ZXpCJ-kXXSdqCqRAP4

my 2000pts
x6 Warband
x3 Cavern Dweller
x3 Frost Giant
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FHZMWe42NAcgPjdbj9V9eS7IQBjK3DyK?fbclid=IwAR3hyKYYGWXqJRaU1JN1y1Wf7gdWF_cthZci8VxV7ZXpCJ-kXXSdqCqRAP4

Round 1: Dominate
Opponent: Daniel Read
Race: Elves
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FHZMWe42NAcgPjdbj9V9eS7IQBjK3DyK?fbclid=IwAR3hyKYYGWXqJRaU1JN1y1Wf7gdWF_cthZci8VxV7ZXpCJ-kXXSdqCqRAP4
Lost of stalling and holding tactics blocking units from the zone.
Lots of death
Lots of fun


Round 2: Occupy
Opponent: Bob Aspland
Race: Orgres
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FHZMWe42NAcgPjdbj9V9eS7IQBjK3DyK?fbclid=IwAR3hyKYYGWXqJRaU1JN1y1Wf7gdWF_cthZci8VxV7ZXpCJ-kXXSdqCqRAP4

Thought i had managed to pull a draw, but the token under one of Bobs units was further way from me, and the double stike and bounce back by x2 Warbands pushed one just out of range of contesting it.
Great game, miss played my original tactic - AGAIN!
Result: Loss

Round 3: Control
Opponent: Miguel Ángel Santiago
Race: Dwarves
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FHZMWe42NAcgPjdbj9V9eS7IQBjK3DyK?fbclid=IwAR3hyKYYGWXqJRaU1JN1y1Wf7gdWF_cthZci8VxV7ZXpCJ-kXXSdqCqRAP4
Faced one of the Spanish contingent who travelled over for this event.
Lovely guy with a great army.
I got utterly destroyed in this
Result: Loss

Round 4: Kill
Opponent: Alex Ulster
Race: Kingdom of Men
Alex beautifully blocked off the path a train of Giants were making behind his ranks and delayed them enough to pull a Draw
Result: Draw

Another Four Foot Snake Thing - 2019

So up towards the nosebleeds a little group of lads pulled together to bring us a two day tournament.

They slowly dripped the news in on of the event to get the juices flowing, casting their little worms far and wide to see who would nibble.

They teased us with prizes

Beachhead KoW Tournament

So get a message out of the blue from Matt Dewsnap (we have been collaborating on something else in the background). 
Help we have had some drop outs, can you come to our tournament.

Giants to the rescue.

After an initial mess-up of arriving well in time, but at the wrong address, all was sorted and arrived at the Venue. Bournemouth International Centre.

The tournament was being hosted By Entoyment and Warborne Gamers Club 2019 inside a gaming conference, with lots of stalls selling plastic crack and bits. There was also board-games being sold and played in various areas, a giant sized version of Hey that's my Fish and what looked like SAGA, X-wing, Bolt Actions tournaments also running. A large KoW siege battle was played inside the centre.

The format for the tournament was

• Round 1: Kill 1000pts 30min
• Round 2: Ransack 1000pts 35min
• Round 3: Invade 2000pts 45min
• Round 4: Control the portal (Dominate with a twist) 2000pts 45min

So what did I bring?

1k list

• x2 Warband reg
• x1 Bloodsworn reg with lifeleech
• x1 Devourer with Breath attack
• x1 Cavern Dweller
• x1 Frost Giant

2k list

• x4 Warband reg
• x2 Warband reg with Crushing Strength
• x3 Cavern Dwellers
• x2 Frost Giants
• x1 Frost Giant with Blizzard

Round 1 Kill

Played against Robert Way, a nice young fella with Kingdoms of Men army.
Was a bloody brutal (well would have been more if i remembered Frosties are Brutal).
i took out his two Chariots first and then set to work on the rest of the army.
The grind was won by the Giants killing great swathes of the puny men.

Round 2 Ransack

Drawn against Moonraker Paul Fox and met his Spongebox awesomeness of the Trident Realms.
Wow, i hate ensnare.
Giants got utterly pounded into the dirt.
Multicharging, flanking and trying to slam through just did not work with ensnare costing a lot of potential hits.
Ektar thingy was a pig and was toe to toe with a giant for most of the game.
Arse handed to me is understatement.
Nigh on tabled and did not kill a single unit!!
Loved every second of it.
Stupidly brutal.
Stupidly epic moments (esp managing to do a decent chunck of damage, failing the nerve roll and then it ALL regens!).
You know its going to be one of those games, when the Giant delivery system (Warband regs) do more damage than the giants.

Jack of Herts 2

So back at Jack, an excellently run tournament by Mat Green and Paul Roberts.
Army build were limited to 1700 points, which made unit selection tight and rule of 2 was enforce.
With the date of the tournament rapidly approaching the threat of Yellow Snow emerged, yep not got a scooby either what yellow snow is, unless its for piss poor snow.

Sleep What Sleep

Crunch time approached and forgot to go to sleep before the day! Going to bed at 4:30am cause your too wired to sleep is not cool when you need to get up for 6:30.
Oh well joy oh joy.
First coffee going in almost intravenously.
Pack Car.
More Coffee (maybe should point out I don't use a spoon to measure coffee in my LARGE mug, but as long as can no longer see the bottom of the mug, then that's just about enough coffee).
Grant arrives, so we head off on snow free roads, making up good time, so good a Mc D's brekkie was in order.
Then we arrive at Jack of Herts 2 in hemel Hempstead.

7 glorious tables with various mixes of terrain and also some epic Vanguard tables for a separate consecutively run Vanguard tourney.
General greetings with Mat and Paul, the PIT crew and faces old and new that I have met at other tournaments (not all I have played yet).

Go big or go home!

So I like building lists from an idea, be it great or dumb, i will build to that list.

So Idea was Giants, lot of Giants I want bug striding giants with D6 attacks and lots of Crushing.

But what about Inspiring, pah, what about it, overrated i want Giants.

But which Army??

Well I have Gobbos, but none are painted and most are unbuilt, but more importantly, they are somewhere, not sure where but I put them down (about 3K points worth) in the house but now cannot find em.

So Kingdom of men, hmm I have the minis for it somewhere and mix in my Barbarians, yep contender.

Orcs, I dont have enough models to field the unlocks

Ogres, I possibly have enough ogres or ogresish models, but not feeling it.

Varangur, hmm Love the nuttiness of going giant with the Varangur, I have my northern Alliance, hmm, I also have a load of Bassila men at arms ripe for conversion. Interest pipped. Yep Varangur.

So I have 5 giants so what flavour are they can can I get them all in? Can i go full mantic?

Hmm cool challenge.

So get to converting a load of men at arms to Varangur with various head and arm swaps.

and start building the list in..oh easy army not updated yet.. scrap paper, in head, pseudo builds with standins in EasyArmy.

I come up with:

• Varangur
• x2 Warband reg
• x2 Warband reg with CS1 and lower def
• x2 Cavern Dwellers
• x1 Frost Giant
• x1 Frost Giant with Blizzard
• Orc allies
• x1 Axe Reg (which I used the northern alliance Hurscurls for)
• x1 Colossal Giant

Yep no inspiring, but a Giant delivery system within 1700pts